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Thu 9 Feb 2023 09.59 GMTFirst published on Thu 9 Feb 2023 09.24 GMT

Lee Anderson. The new Tory party deputy chair said his comments were often popular with voters.

Lee Anderson. The new Tory party deputy chair said his comments were often popular with voters. Photograph: Jeff Gilbert/Alamy

Lee Anderson. The new Tory party deputy chair said his comments were often popular with voters. Photograph: Jeff Gilbert/Alamy

Tories stress new deputy chairman Lee Anderson not speaking for government when he calls for death penalty

Good morning. When Lee Anderson was appointed Conservative party deputy chairman on Tuesday, it was widely assumed that his stance as a rent-a-quote reactionary would soon create awkward headlines for the Tories and it has happened already. Anderson gave an interview to the Spectator before his appointment and it has been published this morning. In it, asked if he would support the return of the death penalty, he replied:

Yes. Nobody has ever committed a crime after being executed. You know that, don’t you? 100% success rate.

The death penalty was abolished in the 1960s, in part because of concern that miscarriages of justice meant innocent people were sometimes killed by the state. Anderson told the Spectator that he could see the problem, and that he would only want the death penalty used where there was no doubt about guilt. He said:

Now I’d be very careful on that one (the return of the death penalty) because you’ll get the certain groups saying: ‘You can never prove it.’

Well, you can prove it if they have videoed it and are on camera – like the Lee Rigby killers.

I mean: they should have gone, same week. I don’t want to pay for these people.

Of course, restoring the death penalty is not remotely Conservative party policy (and it would require the UK to leave the European convention on human rights, which is not Rishi Sunak’s policy, but is a move favoured by some Tories, including Suella Braverman, the home secretary). CCHQ and the government have not endorsed Anderson’s view. The Conservative party said that the interview took place before Anderson became deputy chair, and that his view on the death penalty wasn’t the government’s.

And Claire Coutinho, the children’s minister who was doing a media round this morning, said that Anderson was “a very good thing for the party”, even though she did not agree with him on this.

In his Spectator interview Anderson said that comments deemed outrageous at Westminster were often popular with voters. He said:

If I say something that is supposedly outrageous in that place [the Commons], I get back to Ashfield on a Thursday, people will come out the shops and say: “You say what I’m thinking.”

As Tory deputy chair, Anderson is not a member of the government, and he is certainly not in charge of penal policy, and so in one sense his views don’t matter. But that does not mean they are not important. Rishi Sunak did not appoint him despite his hardline and illiberal views on crime, welfare, immigration etc. He appointed him because of them. Anderson is supposed to show working class Ukip and Brexit party voters that their views are represented in the Tory party.

But if, as soon as Anderson does something likely to appeal to this constituency, government colleagues say they don’t agree, then at some point the man in the Ashfield shopping centre might feel he’s being strung along.

Here is the agenda for the day.

9.30am: Kemi Badenoch, the new business and trade secretary, takes questions in the Commons.

9.45am: Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, gives evidence to the Commons Treasury committee.

Morning: Sunak is on a visit to a family hub in the south-west of England to promote the family hubs and start for life programme.

10.30am: The former MP Jared O’Mara is due to be sentenced after being convicted of expenses fraud.

11.30am: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.

There is also a byelection today in West Lancashire, a safe Labour seat.

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Key events

As Tory deputy chairman, Lee Anderson will be expected to defend the party on broadcast media. But it is not going well. He gave an interview to BBC Radio Nottingham which, after a discussion about his views of food banks, ended up with Anderson dodging questions about the episode when he staged an encounter with a supporter for a camera crew during an election (the ‘random’ voter was a personal friend) and then asking the station not to broadcast any of the interview at all.

You can listen to the whole thing here, on the BBC’s website, where there is a long report too.

There are two urgent questions in the Commons today, on the visit of the the Xinjiang governor to the UK and on a Financial Times report saying the levelling up department has been “banned from making spending decisions on new capital projects without specific permission from the Treasury, after concerns were raised about the ministry’s ability to deliver value for money”.

FROM 1030 TODAY….

1. UQ – @MPIainDS - Asking for a statement on the planned visit to the UK of the Governor of Xinjiang

2. UQ – @lisanandy - Asking for a statement on his department’s ability to make spending decisions on new capital projects.

3. Business questions

— Labour Whips (@labourwhips) February 9, 2023

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And here is my colleague Peter Walker’s story about the Lee Anderson interview in the Spectator. As he points out, as well as backing the death penalty, Anderson also said that people crossing the Channel on small boats should be sent straight back by the navy.

This is what Anderson told the Spectator in the interview about the small boats. Describing a recent visit to Calais where he saw migrants hoping to come to the UK, he said:

They are seeing a country where the streets are paved with gold – where, once you land, they are not in that manky little fucking scruffy tent. They are going to be in a four-star hotel! And they know that Serco is buying up houses everywhere, to put them in for the next five years. Why wouldn’t you come?

I’d send them straight back the same day. I’d put them on a Royal Navy frigate or whatever and sail it to Calais, have a standoff. And they’d just stop coming.

Tories stress new deputy chairman Lee Anderson not speaking for government when he calls for death penalty

Good morning. When Lee Anderson was appointed Conservative party deputy chairman on Tuesday, it was widely assumed that his stance as a rent-a-quote reactionary would soon create awkward headlines for the Tories and it has happened already. Anderson gave an interview to the Spectator before his appointment and it has been published this morning. In it, asked if he would support the return of the death penalty, he replied:

Yes. Nobody has ever committed a crime after being executed. You know that, don’t you? 100% success rate.

The death penalty was abolished in the 1960s, in part because of concern that miscarriages of justice meant innocent people were sometimes killed by the state. Anderson told the Spectator that he could see the problem, and that he would only want the death penalty used where there was no doubt about guilt. He said:

Now I’d be very careful on that one (the return of the death penalty) because you’ll get the certain groups saying: ‘You can never prove it.’

Well, you can prove it if they have videoed it and are on camera – like the Lee Rigby killers.

I mean: they should have gone, same week. I don’t want to pay for these people.

Of course, restoring the death penalty is not remotely Conservative party policy (and it would require the UK to leave the European convention on human rights, which is not Rishi Sunak’s policy, but is a move favoured by some Tories, including Suella Braverman, the home secretary). CCHQ and the government have not endorsed Anderson’s view. The Conservative party said that the interview took place before Anderson became deputy chair, and that his view on the death penalty wasn’t the government’s.

And Claire Coutinho, the children’s minister who was doing a media round this morning, said that Anderson was “a very good thing for the party”, even though she did not agree with him on this.

In his Spectator interview Anderson said that comments deemed outrageous at Westminster were often popular with voters. He said:

If I say something that is supposedly outrageous in that place [the Commons], I get back to Ashfield on a Thursday, people will come out the shops and say: “You say what I’m thinking.”

As Tory deputy chair, Anderson is not a member of the government, and he is certainly not in charge of penal policy, and so in one sense his views don’t matter. But that does not mean they are not important. Rishi Sunak did not appoint him despite his hardline and illiberal views on crime, welfare, immigration etc. He appointed him because of them. Anderson is supposed to show working class Ukip and Brexit party voters that their views are represented in the Tory party.

But if, as soon as Anderson does something likely to appeal to this constituency, government colleagues say they don’t agree, then at some point the man in the Ashfield shopping centre might feel he’s being strung along.

Here is the agenda for the day.

9.30am: Kemi Badenoch, the new business and trade secretary, takes questions in the Commons.

9.45am: Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, gives evidence to the Commons Treasury committee.

Morning: Sunak is on a visit to a family hub in the south-west of England to promote the family hubs and start for life programme.

10.30am: The former MP Jared O’Mara is due to be sentenced after being convicted of expenses fraud.

11.30am: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.

There is also a byelection today in West Lancashire, a safe Labour seat.

I’ll try to monitor the comments below the line (BTL) but it is impossible to read them all. If you have a direct question, do include “Andrew” in it somewhere and I’m more likely to find it. I do try to answer questions, and if they are of general interest I will post the question and reply above the line (ATL), although I can’t promise to do this for everyone.

If you want to attract my attention quickly, it is probably better to use Twitter. I’m on @AndrewSparrow.

Alternatively, you can email me at andrew.sparrow@theguardian.com

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